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		<title>By: El gen</title>
		<link>http://www.heronswoodvoice.com/2009/06/the-trillion-dollar-garden/#comment-19183</link>
		<dc:creator>El gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, where can i get free labor like the one the first lady is getting for her garden. If i include the time that it would consume me to grow a garden the cost saving that you bring cannot be sustained. Also, the yields have been very poor skyrocking the cost per area.

I think this is all a big fantasy and activities like this should not be prmoted by the president unless as an interesting hobby. You will never be able to feed  a growing population this way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, where can i get free labor like the one the first lady is getting for her garden. If i include the time that it would consume me to grow a garden the cost saving that you bring cannot be sustained. Also, the yields have been very poor skyrocking the cost per area.</p>
<p>I think this is all a big fantasy and activities like this should not be prmoted by the president unless as an interesting hobby. You will never be able to feed  a growing population this way</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

The Maryland Master Gardeners have begun a formal teaching program &quot;Grow it, Eat It!&quot; to help people learn how to garden.    &lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;

The National Project of the new president of National Garden Clubs is about getting children involved in food gardening.  (They are slow in updating their website, so no link yet.)

Maybe the American people are ready to relearn what we&#039;ve forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>The Maryland Master Gardeners have begun a formal teaching program &#8220;Grow it, Eat It!&#8221; to help people learn how to garden.    &lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>The National Project of the new president of National Garden Clubs is about getting children involved in food gardening.  (They are slow in updating their website, so no link yet.)</p>
<p>Maybe the American people are ready to relearn what we&#8217;ve forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.heronswoodvoice.com/2009/06/the-trillion-dollar-garden/#comment-18998</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW...not only political bashing but a racial slur as well!  Don&#039;t miss the message, ROI!  I did the math on my brother&#039;s garden: Dirt - Free, Tiller Rent - $10 as four people rented for 1/2 day, gas - $1.00, compost for fertilizer - free from the landfill, seed - $50, labor -???what the heck else does he have to do on off days that he&#039;s watching the kids?, no other chemicals, tools he already had, the experience he is giving his kids...priceless.  And to top it off, he built a rain barrel using a 55 ga plastic container obtained free from a local industrial source that sanitized them and used to pay to have them hauled away, to water his garden.  However you would probably deem that some type of multi-million dollar &quot;issue&quot; as well.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however I do not see the point of hurtful comments towards people that are actually trying to make a difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW&#8230;not only political bashing but a racial slur as well!  Don&#8217;t miss the message, ROI!  I did the math on my brother&#8217;s garden: Dirt &#8211; Free, Tiller Rent &#8211; $10 as four people rented for 1/2 day, gas &#8211; $1.00, compost for fertilizer &#8211; free from the landfill, seed &#8211; $50, labor -???what the heck else does he have to do on off days that he&#8217;s watching the kids?, no other chemicals, tools he already had, the experience he is giving his kids&#8230;priceless.  And to top it off, he built a rain barrel using a 55 ga plastic container obtained free from a local industrial source that sanitized them and used to pay to have them hauled away, to water his garden.  However you would probably deem that some type of multi-million dollar &#8220;issue&#8221; as well.</p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however I do not see the point of hurtful comments towards people that are actually trying to make a difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of new gardeners this year due to poor economy and some presidential influence via Michelle Obama. Helped my 4 year old grandson with a &quot;square foot Garden Box&quot; two years ago now the family has expanded to 4 Boxes. In addition two of my other grand children have shown interest this year and have started their own &quot;boxes&quot; with the help of the parents. The trend is catching on more each year. Great educational experience for the entire families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of new gardeners this year due to poor economy and some presidential influence via Michelle Obama. Helped my 4 year old grandson with a &#8220;square foot Garden Box&#8221; two years ago now the family has expanded to 4 Boxes. In addition two of my other grand children have shown interest this year and have started their own &#8220;boxes&#8221; with the help of the parents. The trend is catching on more each year. Great educational experience for the entire families.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold onto your shorts there, John.  The trillion dollars in savings would enable folks to spend that money—money they saved—on things other than overpriced produce at the supermarket.  I was trying to point out that it&#039;s about the same cost as that projected for the conversion to the newly discussed healthcare reform.

Also, I think that the additional costs taken out—and this includes energy such as gas and coolers and truck wear and tear—down the supply line would help the economy as well.  It&#039;s the &quot;Walmart effect&quot;.  Everyone &quot;hates&quot; Walmart, but ever notice how much money they save the ordinary consumer?  Similarly, if you buy a trowel, a hoe, a few bags of fertilizer or a composter, and put some elbow grease, these are either one-time costs, or else activities that do a body good, i.e., make you grunt and sweat, and just might put a few more years onto your life, or make the ones you have left less sickly and, thus, perhaps less burdensome on the overall health care industry.

It&#039;s like seat belts.  I remember when they first came out, then the laws came out. Lots of older folks said they&#039;d never wear them.  Yet thousands of lives have been saved.  Same with backyard vegetable gardening.  As to the seed costs:  the $200 is for the entire year—not just the first sowing.  Perhaps they might&#039;ve spent less.  I don&#039;t know the precise cultivars they purchased, since they were sourced from several places that specialize in older, historical varieties.  That was their choice, as befits a &quot;White House&quot;  period setting.  (This is why I suggested they test their chops out at Camp David.)  

My point remains that the conservative ratio is 1:25 for seed and fertilizer costs (mainly seed) to costs of vegetables bought.  And, John, this is a comparison of &quot;home-grown&quot; to &quot;store-bought&quot;.  Maybe you can do the math, but do you also get the point?  Taste buds?

&quot;Have Seed, Will Save You.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold onto your shorts there, John.  The trillion dollars in savings would enable folks to spend that money—money they saved—on things other than overpriced produce at the supermarket.  I was trying to point out that it&#8217;s about the same cost as that projected for the conversion to the newly discussed healthcare reform.</p>
<p>Also, I think that the additional costs taken out—and this includes energy such as gas and coolers and truck wear and tear—down the supply line would help the economy as well.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;Walmart effect&#8221;.  Everyone &#8220;hates&#8221; Walmart, but ever notice how much money they save the ordinary consumer?  Similarly, if you buy a trowel, a hoe, a few bags of fertilizer or a composter, and put some elbow grease, these are either one-time costs, or else activities that do a body good, i.e., make you grunt and sweat, and just might put a few more years onto your life, or make the ones you have left less sickly and, thus, perhaps less burdensome on the overall health care industry.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like seat belts.  I remember when they first came out, then the laws came out. Lots of older folks said they&#8217;d never wear them.  Yet thousands of lives have been saved.  Same with backyard vegetable gardening.  As to the seed costs:  the $200 is for the entire year—not just the first sowing.  Perhaps they might&#8217;ve spent less.  I don&#8217;t know the precise cultivars they purchased, since they were sourced from several places that specialize in older, historical varieties.  That was their choice, as befits a &#8220;White House&#8221;  period setting.  (This is why I suggested they test their chops out at Camp David.)  </p>
<p>My point remains that the conservative ratio is 1:25 for seed and fertilizer costs (mainly seed) to costs of vegetables bought.  And, John, this is a comparison of &#8220;home-grown&#8221; to &#8220;store-bought&#8221;.  Maybe you can do the math, but do you also get the point?  Taste buds?</p>
<p>&#8220;Have Seed, Will Save You.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to make another comment and ask a few questions.  I really need to see everyone at least get the facts straight.  This is not a $5000 gain for a $200 investment.  Can we at least agree on that.  I own a business.  There is always added expenses and labor to be paid.  In addition to the seed, there is soil amendments, fertilizers, possibly pesticides, fuel for the tiller, etc. etc. to be paid for.  Then there is the labor.  This garden has to be prepared, planted, cultivated, and harvested.  I guarantee you that the Obama&#039;s aren&#039;t going to &quot;volunteer&quot; to do it for free.  And it takes a lot of labor to do this.  Remember we are talking about government supervised, security cleared, presidential approved, taxpayer financed, EXPENSIVE, labor.  People, it&#039;s going to take thousands and thousands of dollars to reap the &quot;benefits&quot; of a few extra vegetables.  The $200 that they are spending on seed is just the tip of the iceberg.  I need for my president to lead my country.  Putting out false economics is not leading.  It&#039;s deceiving.  He needs to spend his time getting the country back in line and giving speeches. (assuming his teleprompter&#039;s not broken)  And just for the record, there is no way that it costs $200 for a few Collard, Turnip Greens, and Watermelon Seed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to make another comment and ask a few questions.  I really need to see everyone at least get the facts straight.  This is not a $5000 gain for a $200 investment.  Can we at least agree on that.  I own a business.  There is always added expenses and labor to be paid.  In addition to the seed, there is soil amendments, fertilizers, possibly pesticides, fuel for the tiller, etc. etc. to be paid for.  Then there is the labor.  This garden has to be prepared, planted, cultivated, and harvested.  I guarantee you that the Obama&#8217;s aren&#8217;t going to &#8220;volunteer&#8221; to do it for free.  And it takes a lot of labor to do this.  Remember we are talking about government supervised, security cleared, presidential approved, taxpayer financed, EXPENSIVE, labor.  People, it&#8217;s going to take thousands and thousands of dollars to reap the &#8220;benefits&#8221; of a few extra vegetables.  The $200 that they are spending on seed is just the tip of the iceberg.  I need for my president to lead my country.  Putting out false economics is not leading.  It&#8217;s deceiving.  He needs to spend his time getting the country back in line and giving speeches. (assuming his teleprompter&#8217;s not broken)  And just for the record, there is no way that it costs $200 for a few Collard, Turnip Greens, and Watermelon Seed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave the politics out and get back to what Mr. Ball is actually trying to say, we can all do something to help, whether it&#039;s planting a garden, teaching our children to do something other than &quot;text&quot;, or helping someone else.  If you sit at 11:32 pm and complain maybe your are not part of the solution?  I have met Mr. Ball, we produced a pilot for a cooking series a few years ago and there is a genuine passion for better things in the man.  Sure, there is an underlying marketing plan, but dig deeper to see what Burpee and Mr. Ball gives back!  

My brother works in the RV Industry, or what&#039;s left of it.  He actually works for the number one manufacturer and they are down to 32 hr weeks, twice a month.  Last year he planted a garden and he estimates that the benefit was very close to 1:100.  When the on-slaught of tomatos and cukes came, he made the rounds to other employees and the senior center.  This year he has doubled the size of his garden and invited others to plant there as well.  He also got his two boys involved and they think they are farmers.  Keep up the good work Mr. Ball and all the others out there trying to make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave the politics out and get back to what Mr. Ball is actually trying to say, we can all do something to help, whether it&#8217;s planting a garden, teaching our children to do something other than &#8220;text&#8221;, or helping someone else.  If you sit at 11:32 pm and complain maybe your are not part of the solution?  I have met Mr. Ball, we produced a pilot for a cooking series a few years ago and there is a genuine passion for better things in the man.  Sure, there is an underlying marketing plan, but dig deeper to see what Burpee and Mr. Ball gives back!  </p>
<p>My brother works in the RV Industry, or what&#8217;s left of it.  He actually works for the number one manufacturer and they are down to 32 hr weeks, twice a month.  Last year he planted a garden and he estimates that the benefit was very close to 1:100.  When the on-slaught of tomatos and cukes came, he made the rounds to other employees and the senior center.  This year he has doubled the size of his garden and invited others to plant there as well.  He also got his two boys involved and they think they are farmers.  Keep up the good work Mr. Ball and all the others out there trying to make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George...Love your thoughts about growing food...I think everyone who knows how ought to teach others because the hunger and suffering has just begun...Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George&#8230;Love your thoughts about growing food&#8230;I think everyone who knows how ought to teach others because the hunger and suffering has just begun&#8230;Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: JANIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JANIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did Camp David become Camp Obama?  We can sure see that you wear your politics on your shirt sleeve and you did mean trillion dollar stimulus that our great grandchildren will be paying for didn&#039;t you?  President Obama needs to do alot more then plant a garden to help this economy.  It was a nice article but next time don&#039;t bring your politics into an article that is suppose to be about the wonderful effects a garden can bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did Camp David become Camp Obama?  We can sure see that you wear your politics on your shirt sleeve and you did mean trillion dollar stimulus that our great grandchildren will be paying for didn&#8217;t you?  President Obama needs to do alot more then plant a garden to help this economy.  It was a nice article but next time don&#8217;t bring your politics into an article that is suppose to be about the wonderful effects a garden can bring.</p>
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